Aryans – native after all?

(based mainly on Jagat K. Motwani’s None But India [Bharat]: The Cradle of Aryans, Sanskrit, Vedas, & Swastika – ISBN 9781450261272)


In Western academia the story goes like this: India has been an apartheid state since about 1500BC, that is 3500 years ago. Around that time a group of fair-skinned Indo-European people called Aryans rode southward from their homeland, conquering the ‘black’-skinned Dravidians (natives of India) they came across. They then set up the caste system to stay in a position of absolute dominance. That system is still alive and kicking to this very day, and it’s what Vedic (scriptural) Hinduism is based on. This story is referred to as the AII, Aryan Invasion of India.

However, most people are probably familiar with this sentiment:

“Some history is based on truth, and others on deception.”

In the book None but India (Bharat), Motwani points out many a deception in the academics’ narrative. Honestly I feel a wee bit foolish for not connecting the dots sooner but here we go:

  • Where was the Aryans’ urheimat (homeland)? To date the AII narrative has drawn a total blank,
  • The Aryans are said to have been Indo-European, so who were they exactly? Were they Indian, European, both or neither? Indo-European is a language group not an ethnic group…
  • …And a damn shoddy language group at that. Indian and European languages have almost nothing in common. The similarities are very few and far between, and can be easily explained by other factors,
  • Even shoddier is the ancestor language Proto-Indo-European (PIE). For a start, why can’t they find its original name, or any living descendants who’ve ever heard of it?

Motwani reckons Western academics are trying to make mysteries when there are none. In brief his responses are:

  • The Aryans’ original homeland was India. They didn’t invade shit, they were returning home after leaving in around 1800BC,
  • They were Indian. In fact, they were ethnically the same as the Dravidians*,

* This is a very interesting claim, since that would mean the Aryans were definitely ‘black’. This claim has been made before by Taj-Akoben & The Neo-Victorian Gentleman, but what really makes it hit home is Herodotus, who described north Indians (often taken today as descendants of Aryans) as similar in appearance to Egyptians! 

I told you Tutmose-hotep-amun-nefer-khepra IV preferred Asian girls.
  • Their language was Sanskrit (my Bengali colleague told me it’s not pronounced San-skrit but Shung-skrit), which they spoke back in India because it’s native to India,
  • The PIE is complete dogshit. It can’t be found because it never existed, and there are only 2 reasons anyone proposed its existence: it makes ‘white’ people look good by linking them to an ancient “high civilisation” (yet again), and there are some linguistic similarities between it and European languages.

However, those European languages are only 2: Latin & Greek. And those similarities are only because of Indian colonisation of early Greece and Rome. That’s why Greeks were so smart; they got their ideas of civilisation from the Indians.

Believe it.

I admit I knew, from Wendy Doniger’s The Hindus: An Alternative History, that the PIE isn’t a real language. She clearly stated it’s a reconstructed language, working “backwards” from modern European & Indian tongues (so-called members of the Indo-European group) to tease out hypothetical origins for many modern words. That’s why if you look in any dictionary, or Etymonline, all PIE words begin with an asterisk: to show their theoretical (therefore unproven) status.


etymonline dragon
(PIE highlighted in blue)


Damn it, he’s using my arguments against me!

Sometime after Indians colonised Greece & Rome, those two went on to colonise other parts of the world (especially Romans). That is why many European languages bear similarities to Indian tongues like Sanskrit. Before then, European tribes were speaking their own tribal languages like the Celtic, Germanic, Slavic families and others.

And when did Indians colonise south Europe? Circa 1800BC, then some chose to return around 300 years later in 1500BC (the year of the so-called invasion). However, the ones back home mistook them for invaders due to their horse-drawn chariots. How can we know Aryans were native? They never referred to anywhere else as home.

It’s well established that the word Aryan has been totally misused in European discourse, especially by Hitler and the Nazis. Even the word Aryan is a modern invention; the proper word was Ārya, which meant “noble” in the language of the people who used it.

What should also be noted is that India today is a LOT smaller than it used to be. Known variously as Āryavarta, Āryadesha, Āryabhoomi and Bhārat (which my illustrious colleague informed me is pronounced Vārot), the nation used to cover what’s now India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Iran and parts of Afghanistan.

What really grabbed my attention, though, was the book’s total absence of references to the caste system. You’d think considering the caste system is one of the biggest sticking points for AII proponents, Motwani would’ve addressed it even if just to deny it! So I did some digging, and found numerous sources claiming Indians didn’t invent the caste system. They invented varnashram or jati, which later foreign rulers (especially the English) corrupted into the modern caste system. Could be; ‘white’ people have for ages been good at lying about foreigners’ histories. It’s also poignant to note that the AII theory was constructed during the colonial era by Mortimer Wheeler, in an age when ‘whites’ were trying to justify their hold on the world.

(On a slight side note, one source also states Hindu didn’t exist as a term for a religious community until the English came along. It was originally a Persian – i.e. Iranian – ethnic label but the English used it as a dustbin term for any Indian that wasn’t Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist or Jain – basically shorthand for heathen/pagan. Before any of those faiths came on the scene, Indians followed a HUGE array of local traditions and spiritual systems ranging from monotheism to polytheism to atheism, vegetarianism to carnivory to self-starvation, materialism to asceticism and everything else in between. Including praying to giant boners. Only European Christians were stupid & lazy enough to think they were supposed to be one and the same religion.) 

All in all I find Motwani’s arguments, and the subsequent research they prompted me to do, intriguing and worth taking on board. However, there are a few holes he hasn’t quite plugged:

  • If Aryans and Dravidians are/were the same people, why are their descendants so different in phenotype – and genotype?




Fucking hell they look like Nicholas Cage & Alfonso Ribeiro!



(Of course I know this isn’t true 100% of the time, in case some numbnuts tries to get on my ass about “oh, they don’t all look like that.” Pretty much all Sasians are mixed to some degree. However, it is common enough to be noticed as a general trend in South Asia)

  • In my experience in speaking to South Asians, they find it easier to understand each other when they speak a language descended from Sanskrit (e.g. Urdu, Bengali, Hindi) than from a Dravidian language (e.g. Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu). Not to mention the physical distance they maintain between each other. Are the similarities between these groups really as strong as the author suggests?
  • On the topic of language, despite his claims the tables Motwani shows of Indian vs. European words shows extreme similarities between them. Check this out for more clarification:

Though this could be due to Indian colonisation of early Greece and Rome. I’d be interested to find more sources to support that.

  • How/ when did the caste system get implemented, and when did it get included in the Vedas, if not by invasion?
  • Why did the Aryans leave India in the first place? There seems to be no answer in this work,
  • If they didn’t invade, why do the Aryans in the Vedas boast about defeating and slaughtering the wicked Dasyus/ Dasas (other name for Dravidians) in battle? And even about driving the “hated” dark skin away? And why do they make such a distinction between Dravidians and themselves?
  • Why do so many Asians adhere to the castes, the same way ‘whites’ adhere to their superiority complex vis-à-vis ‘blacks’, if they weren’t indoctrinated into the culture of an invading group?
  • If Aryans were native to India, why do they consider themselves to be ethnically, culturally and geographically distinct today? There’s a group of people in India today called Parsees who consider themselves descendants of the original Zoroastrians and were driven eastward from their homeland…


  • Fair enough Motwani may not have known this but it may have been important to include the potential implications of thisthis research that suggests the Indo-European language family originated in Turkey. And this isn’t a new theory, it was suggested back in 1987 by Colin Renfrew. Is this the PIE urheimat?

Furthermore, Motwani claimed, in the 6th chapter Vishaal Bharat: Borderless World of Vedic Culture, that Ethiopians and Egyptians are descended from Indians. While I accept that cultural influences spread & interacted very fluidly around the world in ancient times, probably even more than today, it seems a stretch to equate that with blood descendants in ancient Africa. As evidence he cites other authors rather than archaeological evidence. Such evidence should be readily available by now considering when the book was written (2011). Never in any research I’ve come across have the Kemetians (ancient Egyptians, at least the pre-dynastic ones) or Nubians/ Kushites/ Aithiopians claimed to have ancestry outside the continent we now call Africa. However, in The History Herodotus (circa 484–425 BC) did mention “eastern Ethiopians” who looked no different from Africans except in having straight hair. Homer (circa 800s BC) also said that Ethiopians inhabit the west & east extremities of the world, which as far as Greeks knew at the time were Africa & Asia respectively. And while it’s true that Somalis and other Horners are 20-30% Asian by blood (according to a Somali friend of mine), that blood is from southwest Asia, i.e. in and around the Arabian peninsula, and most of that mixture was in pre-Islamic days when Arabs were still pretty much ‘black’. However, even that’s debatable since the evidence can just as easily be read the other way round: that southwest Asian genes (and the “Caucasoid” faces) came straight from east Africa. Either way, India seems to have had no backflowing genetic influence on ancient east Africa.

Or am I wrong? And again?

And one of his statements bugs me. He claimed the Indians who stayed behind “mistook” the Aryans for invaders. How do you mistake someone for an invader? If they ride in, swords drawn, killing your kinsmen, kicking you out of your homes (as the Vedas describe), how is that not invasion? And those stories are all written from the Aryans’ perspective, which paints an unambiguous picture of battle, conquest, hatred, etc.

So how is that not invasion?

Maybe this interview will elucidate Motwani’s background and possible influences for his research:

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